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Cult Chat - Ep 24 - Coersive Control - What Is It?( 0:56:56)       
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What do a woman abused by her intimate partner, a member of a cult group, and a prisoner of war in North Korea in the 1950s all have in common? Listen to this episode to find out! As you listen you’ll also learn interesting facts about venn diagrams, storm-troopers and the joys of lawn-mowing. This episode features a culty analysis of 1950’s researcher Albert Biderman’s fascinating yet chilling “Chart of Coercion”, with tips from our hosts on how to recognise it in action in a cult.
Published: 13/02/2024 1:00:00 p.m.
Cult Chat - Ep 23 - A chat with Sarah Steele - cult podcaster, author and activist( 0:49:52)       
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Join us this week for a chat with Sarah Steel, writer and producer of the acclaimed podcast series “Let’s Talk About Sects”. Listen as our hosts do some serious fan-girling in Sarah’s direction! After 6 seasons of her podcast and a book on the topic Sarah has learnt a thing or two about cult podcasting, she’s got some ideas about how to make things better, and some tips for our hosts on how to navigate the cultiverse.
Published: 30/01/2024 1:00:00 p.m.
Cult Chat - Ep 22 - Summer Series - Culty Films and TV Shows ( 0:50:28)       
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Are you heading back from a break at the beach and now need a movie from the cultiverse to get you back into the mood for work? In this third summer series episode our hosts talk about their favourite 2023 shows from the cultiverse. Lindy, Liz and Caz talk about what makes these shows worthy watches, and why. These shows will shock you, inform you, and open your eyes a lot wider to different harmful groups out there and how far they will go to manipulate, control and coerce.
Published: 16/01/2024 6:00:00 a.m.
Cult Chat - Ep 21 - Summer Series - Podcasts( 0:52:58)       
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Looking for something from the cultiverse to listen to while driving on your summer roadie? Or perhaps you need help to tune out the kids as you flip the sausages on the barbie? Well, let the Cult Chat trio help! In this episode Lindy, Liz and Caz bring you their favourite 2023 podcasts recommendations to help you deepen your knowledge of the cultiverse - but only after you’ve listened to the fortnightly Cult Chat episode of course!!
Published: 3/01/2024 7:00:00 p.m.
Cult Chat - Ep 20: Summer Miniseries - What are we reading? Books from the cultiverse.( 0:50:18)       
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It’s nearly Christmas! Are you looking for a holiday read? Caz, Lindy and Liz have taken a break from mince-pie-making and present-shopping to record an episode all about books! These books are the ones which jumped out as our best books from the cultiverse in 2023. Grab your pen and pad and jot down some of our recommended best reads of the year. You might still have time to get down to your local bookshop to nab one of these to chuck in the Christmas stocking.
Published: 19/12/2023 12:25:41 p.m.
Cult Chat Episode 19 - Safeguarding Children. It is passible in a cult?( 0:56:15)       
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In this episode, we delve into the crucial topic of Safeguarding Children and share insights on navigating the challenges within high control, cultish groups. Drawing from personal experiences, the hosts shed light on vulnerability factors, resiliency, and the complexities of identifying abuse or neglect in such environments. Tune in for a thoughtful discussion on the collective responsibility we all share in keeping a watchful eye on those within our communities who may be silently suffering.
Published: 5/12/2023 1:00:00 p.m.
Cult Chat - Ep 18: You come out of it broken - Kids in Cults Miniseries (3)( 0:56:59)       
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Need a way to come back down to earth again after listening to Hopeful & Victory Disciple’s interview? Come along as Liz, Lindy and Caz reflect together. Our hosts talk developmental regression, what it really means to be a second or multigenerational child of a cult, and they dig into the physical manifestation of trauma for children. What does it mean for a child to learn to deny their needs, before they have even learnt what their needs are? Join us on this episode of Cult Chat, and find out.
Published: 28/11/2023 1:00:00 p.m.
Cult Chat - Ep 17: Growing up in Gloriavale with Victory and Hopeful Disciple Part 2 - Kids in Cults Miniseries ( 0:58:52)       
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Dive into the gripping continuation of the Kids in Cults miniseries with Hopeful and Victory Disciple as they unveil more about life inside Gloriavale. In Part Two, they discuss the intricate web of friendship, social status, and snitches. Discover how high-control groups set children up for failure and hear Victory's emotional poem, providing a heartbreaking glimpse into her childhood. Gain profound insights into the enduring impact on parenting, the lasting scars and the road to recovery.
Published: 22/11/2023 11:00:00 a.m.
Cult Chat - E16: Growing up in Gloriavale with Victory and Hopeful Disciple Part 1 - Kids in Cults Miniseries ( 0:53:25)       
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Join Hopeful and Victory Disciple in a gripping two-part interview as they share their journey growing up in Gloriavale. They delve into their upbringing in a socially entrapped society, discussing the profound impacts on kids in cults. From bed-wetting to false personas, they shed light on the hidden struggles within high-control groups, unraveling the lasting damage inflicted on the inner selves of children. Don't miss this first eye-opening episode of a two-part conversation about survival.
Published: 21/11/2023 11:14:00 a.m.
Cult Chat - E15: Organisations Under Threat( 0:58:2)       
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How do harmful organizations respond when they are accused of abuse? What are the indicators that the response lacks substance or is part of a strategic ploy to maintain control and protect an image? Today our hosts talk about defenses used by abusive groups, including denial, excuses, justifications and comparisons, using examples they have encountered personally. Listen in to learn what real apologies look like, how to sniff out concessions and demonstrations, and why the difference matters.
Published: 7/11/2023 2:30:00 p.m.
Cult Chat - E14: Jehovah's Witnesses in the High Court (Part 2)( 0:55:20)       
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Join us for Part 2 of Lindy’s conversation with Shayne and Rachael about the JWs application to be exempt from the NZ Royal Commision of Inquiry into Abuse in Care. They examine the arguments that played out in court, providing a fascinating case study of a faith-based group’s reaction to being investigated by outsiders. Lindy, Liz and Caz then unpack the interview and ask if the behaviour displayed by the JWs under scrutiny gives indications of cultishness, coercion or control.
Published: 25/10/2023 2:43:00 p.m.
Cult Chat - E13: Jehovah's Witnesses in the High Court (Part1)( 0:51:8)       
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Lindy interviews Shayne Mechen and Rachael Jackson after they were observers for a week in the High Court. The NZ Branch of the Jehovah’s Witnesses are arguing their case for why they should be exempt from the NZ Royal Commision of Inquiry into Abuse in Care. Shayne and Rachel are both former JWs, and are advocates for former members of the JW faith. In this episode - part 1 of a 2 part interview - Shayne, Rachel and Lindy give an overview of who the JWs are, what they believe, and how this relates to the Royal Inquiry.
Published: 24/10/2023 2:31:24 p.m.
Cult Chat - E12: Two worlds collide - Plymouth Brethren Christian Church( 0:53:36)       
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The leader of the Plymouth Brethren Christian Church formerly The Exclusive Brethren) tells its NZ fellowship to urgently gather together, with very short notice, and 7000 Brethren drop tools and flood airports all over the country in their urgency to show their obedience. Why? Is the world about to end? Is there something the rest of us need to know? Meanwhile, Lindy’s dearly beloved Nana Anna passes away and her shunned family on the outside advocate for their right to say goodbye.
Published: 10/10/2023 12:34:42 p.m.
Cult Chat - E11: Setting the Record Straight on Gloriavale (Part B)( 0:59:15)       
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Part B: He said what?! Gloriavale Leavers and some current members provide commentary around journalist Rebecca Wright’s visit to Parliament where they asked the head of NZ’s Child Protection Agency whether the children at Gloriavale were safe. You won’t believe what he said! Leavers think it’s time the politicians & government agencies get educated. Today we set the record straight. Watch on You Tube: Part A: https://youtu.be/1lwsiGEOIPg & Part B: https://youtu.be/FxEGi_OW0qo
Published: 27/09/2023 11:00:00 a.m.
Cult Chat - E10: Setting the Record Straight on Gloriavale (Part A)( 0:59:44)       
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Part A: Articulate Gloriavale Leavers hit back at the politicians! Journalist Rebecca Wright (Newshub) went to Parliament to ask whether children are safe at Gloriavale. The Prime Minister’s answers elicited quite a reaction among 20 former and current members. Their contributions to this episode are priceless. Your hosts have tied it together with commentary on the Government’s response to cults. Watch on You Tube: Part A: https://youtu.be/1lwsiGEOIPg & Part B: https://youtu.be/FxEGi_OW0qo
Published: 26/09/2023 1:00:00 p.m.
Cult Chat - E9: Telling lies to save souls for Shinchonji with Laura( 0:58:50)       
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Laura was a young adult just starting her career in Auckland when she was recruited into Shinchonji - a Korean high-demand religious group. In this interview Laura describes how she was pursued and recruited, and how fear, deceit and a desire to please others was used to trap her. She became a leader herself and used these same destructive tactics on others. Five years later she extracted herself and in leaving she gave up faith. This episode reveals how easily anyone can be recruited by a cult.
Published: 19/09/2023 1:00:00 p.m.
Cult Chat - E8: The accidental cult reporter: Becoming part of the story with ‘Cult Trip’ author Anke Richter( 0:56:24)       
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A chance encounter with a Centrepoint survivor at a festival a decade ago set Anke Richter on a labyrinthine journey into understanding the aftermath of cults. The result of this work was “Cult Trip”, Anke’s book about her investigation into cults inside and outside New Zealand. Today's chat between Anke and Caz discusses trauma-informed, survivor-centric journalism, how impossible it is to stay objective when writing about the human impact of cults, and how Anke’s and Caz’s stories intersect.
Published: 12/09/2023 1:00:00 p.m.
Cult Chat - E7 - Culty Word Salad( 0:49:6)       
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Are you reaching for your dictionary far too often as you learn more about the cultisphere? If that’s you, you’ll love hearing our hosts slice and dice their way through the most common culty words and phrases. Sit back as our trio define concepts like narcissism, psychopathy, authoritarianism, machiavellianism, and gas-lighting. By the end of our chat you’ll be ready to butt-in on the next conversation you overhear about cults, with full confidence that you’re using the big words correctly.
Published: 29/08/2023 1:00:00 p.m.
Cult Chat - E6: What makes a cult a cult?( 0:55:9)       
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Are cults simply harmless fringe groups with unusual ideas, or something more? Are they always religious? Are they always harmful? Who gets to decide if the word cult is applied to a group, and what if people disagree? Are there some objective measures we can use to define cults? Today Lindy, Liz and Caz talk about some of the different ways cults are defined, drawing on common definitions and exploring some leading international experts’ understandings of what makes a group culty.
Published: 15/08/2023 1:00:00 p.m.
Cult Chat - E5: Three lawyers and a cult activist - with Brian Henry, Steve Patterson, Dennis Gates and Liz Gregory( 1:31:24)       
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How many lawyers does it take to overthrow a coercive controlling system of oppression? Twenty? A hundred? Listen to today’s bonus episode to find out the answer to this age old question as Liz asks the Gloriavale Leavers legal team - Brian, Dennis and Steve - the hard questions about the recent employment case. This bonus episode is being released in response to the July 2023 girls employment court case for the women that New Zealanders will forever fondly call “The Gloriavale Six”.
Published: 9/08/2023 8:00:00 p.m.
Cult Chat - E4: Why isn’t anyone doing anything? - with Liz Gregory( 0:53:56)       
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Discover what drives Liz Gregory, founder of the Gloriavale Leavers’ Support Trust, as she shares her journey from being a teacher and business owner to unexpectedly providing support to survivors of a cult. Liz firmly believes that by thoroughly understanding the root causes of problems, we can develop more effective solutions for the future. Uncover the source of Liz's unwavering energy as she continues to raise awareness and advocate for those affected by the Gloriavale community.
Published: 1/08/2023 1:00:00 p.m.
Cult Chat - E3: Shame, silence and speaking up - with Dr Caroline Ansley( 0:52:13)       
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Caroline talks about how her family became involved in Centrepoint, the time she spent there as a 7 year old, and the silence that surrounded the topic after she left. She explains the slow waking up to the impacts Centrepoint had on her life, and how she started to uncover the history which eventually led to her starting the Centrepoint Restoration Project. She discusses the motivation which drove her - a desire to turn an awful experience into something with meaning, hope and redemptive power.
Published: 18/07/2023 1:00:00 p.m.
Cult Chat - E2: Asking too many questions - with Lindy Jacomb( 0:50:46)       
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Listen to more of Lindy’s story, as she shares what it was like to grow up in the Exclusive Brethren, the unexpected outcomes of asking too many questions, and the difficult process of leaving. We talk about the long-term impacts that former members of high-demand groups can have, especially in groups that practice familial shunning. Lindy shares with us about the heartbeat of the Olive Leaf Network, concluding our chat with a poignant poem that she wrote on her 10 year leaving anniversary.
Published: 4/07/2023 8:00:00 a.m.
Cult Chat - E1: Alarm bells are ringing - with Liz Gregory, Lindy Jacomb and Caroline Ansley( 0:33:18)       
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Meet Lindy, Liz and Caroline on this first episode as they talk about how they met and introduce us to their own projects in the cultisphere: the Olive Leaf Network, Gloriavale Leavers Support Trust, and Centrepoint Restoration Project. The trio talk about what listeners can expect from Cult Chat; cult awareness, impacts of coercive control, cult recovery, and questions about accountability
Published: 20/06/2023 6:00:00 a.m.

Join us - Dr Caroline Ansley, Lindy Jacomb and Liz Gregory - as we traverse the cultiverse. Journey with us as we unpack the cult playbook, talk to leavers of controversial groups in New Zealand and beyond, and share their stories. We talk with experts to gain greater understanding of cultishness and call for Kiwis to cult-proof their lives. This is a home-grown Kiwi programme where each of us are uniquely positioned to present a survivor-centric radio show/podcast, bringing our individual experiences of high control groups to the conversation. We've each spent years advocating for awareness, education and safety for survivors of controlling groups, and have had our own challenges in the cultisphere. If we name or discuss a group and their beliefs or practices this does not mean they are necessarily a cult, or are harmful as a whole. The views and opinions expressed on Cult Chat belong to the speaker alone and are not necessarily shared or endorsed by Cult Chat.


Host: Dr Caroline Ansley, Lindy Jacomb and Liz Gregory

Produced By: Dr Caroline Ansley, Lindy Jacomb and Liz Gregory

Language: English

Category: Special Interest

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